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‘I think the message is wrong… it’s going to disadvantage all those who actually don’t have access to finances.’

Lin Mei reacts to the possibility of students who fail GCSE Maths & English being denied a student loan.

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42 Comments

  1. @saralouise2776

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Im dyslexia in my 40s. No i would get a reasonable grade in GCSE English.

  2. @tariqbahoussain1442

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    The minority of students purposely study at university as a guise to get rich quick by taking out student and maintenance loans and not pay it back. The Majority of students genuinely want to achieve something in life to earn a high salary.

  3. @dyce211

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    It's funny how this chick created a fake narrative about clubs being racist. Now she's on GMB Every Week giving commentary.

  4. @chchwoman9960

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Surely there should be academic prerequisites. This is daft!

  5. @mikewilson5556

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    If you cant pass an English exam youve no business being here!

  6. @scottvannan4275

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Jewellery making requires as fair bit of maths. Potters need some understanding of chemistry to make glazes. Reading music well requires spatial intelligence. Universities are full of people who shouldn't be there.

  7. @simondavies5444

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    How the hell can you study for a degree if you fail GCSE Maths? I sat the first ever GCSEs in 1988 and I also sat a Biology “O” level a year early in 1987. The “O” crushed the GCSEs for difficulty. I got a “B” for my Maths GCSE when you actually had to get over 80% to get a “B” and was told by my teachers I as they bright enough to go University.

    Youth today really doesn’t know how lucky they are with all the opportunities they have.

  8. @CHRISDABAHIA

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    #PUPILS in school, not “students”.

  9. @Then.72

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Richer get Richer and Poorer get Poorer under this government

  10. @erasmus.p

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    But what if you have english but not maths?

  11. @rjones6219

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    A degree on knitting & sowing!

  12. @rab8097

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Is this for English language and literature or literature only?

  13. @sinnyozzy

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    On the subject of Jewellery a friend of mine went back to Uni late to work with Jewells and now he's featured in vogue. I'm not into that very much, but his work is beautiful and does have a place in the world. I'm doing tech, no rip-off Uni course required, open source all the way baby! (I owe the OU 6k for 3 text books and 3 DVDs! 1 year study material)

  14. @lynnehamer239

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👌👌👌👌

  15. @stewartread4235

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Aaaah, universities setting entry standards, getting a "C" in GCSE maths and english is a pretty low bar you'll just about be able to fill out the application form and calculate what the interest payments are. So are you really that motivated or just creating another victimhood status.?

  16. @emma24ism

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    University should be free, it used to be. What is being charged to learn is completely insane.

  17. @e.colemantlpss6406

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Excellent news. Now maybe we’ll have less over educated Mac Donald’s employees who’ll never pay back the loan.

  18. @galinor7

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Do you need a math GCSE to study art or music? Does an English degree need math? Do you need a GCSE in English to study Welsh, (if you're brilliant at Welsh).

  19. @damianoconnor2177

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    You can obtain worthless degrees in worthless subjects from any uni. Not one single uni does common sense and critical thinking to degree level. Stupid poorly educated people are easy to control and manipulate. The last 2 years has proven this beyond any reasonable doubt. The setup is brilliant, make the gullible pay for their own indoctrination, and make sure it's expensive and worthless.

  20. @unclem7816

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    This is ridiculous. Don't pass the entry requirements, you don't get to go. End of.

  21. @unclem7816

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Good.

  22. @stormsurge6765

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Fail. So f or under

  23. @run2cat4run

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    As a person with disabilities who got Es in English and Maths i still able to do art A level and doing a degree since not all degrees need maths or english

  24. @lilyflower91

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Well yeah, why allow someone to put themselves in debt they'll never pay back?

  25. @edwardst-pierre1020

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    It seems that higher education system wants to make as much money as possible. I believe that higher education is not interested in students being successful in their future and if you go in Dept for thousands of dollars well that doesn't seem to be a concern to schools at all. I believe that higher education is there to teach our children what to think and not how to think and make a better life for everyone else in the country.

  26. @kierandevlin8361

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    As a software engineer (that never went to uni), this argument that most of GCSE mathematics is redundant is so stupid its unreal. You shouldn't be able to comment on children's education unless you hold some form of certification to prove you have excelled in the field you're commenting on. You'd never hear me say most of geography is redundant. I know very little about the subject.

    She goes on to say how she's "successful" because she holds a degree in a subject but got an E in GCSE mathematics. That's YOUR measure of success. A degree to me means nothing. Well done, you know everything about fashion design, but can you do something as basic as calculate the percentage of a number? No? I wouldn't call that a success story.

    But on the topic of uni, I agree, it might be beneficial to certain people but it's definitely not the only way to go (depending on your field of choice, i.e medical professions are required to have formal education).

  27. @undesignated3491

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Its up to the finance providers and like life should be based on risk, why would you give a student a loan with low GCSE grades and they continue into Academia, some people are Academics others not so, find your niche.

  28. @jamescaley9942

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Pass exams to gain entry into an academic institution. What an outrageously high expectation to place on young people. Just put the university degree certificates on toilet roll with a sign "please take one".

  29. @robtheplod

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Makes no odds does it? How many actually get fully paid back?

  30. @Bob-ts2tu

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    if you cant pass basic gcse maths and english you have no business at uni. that fuckwit blair started all this encouraging useless degrees you aint going to get a job in, & It's time someone got a grip on the whole education system.

  31. @evanm2024

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    We can agree, disagree, and debate this issue. But at least it's based on merit, which is more than I can say about a lot of university admissions.

  32. @paradox7358

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Denied a loan if you get bad grades.
    So you'll be ok if you're rich?
    I don't think this has really been thought through.

  33. @BrassToff

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    I advertised recently for an admin role at the lower end of the scale which required 5 GCEs including Maths and English. Most applicants had a university degree. I thought that spoke volumes about the worthlessness of degrees these days. In contrast, I took on 2 apprentices straight from A level a few years ago and they are now in skilled roles within my organisation earning good money (more than any of the degree applicants) and debt-free. I would encourage anybody to consider taking on or going for apprenticeships.

  34. @lani1988

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Ok 🤷🏾‍♂️

  35. @generic5284

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    I know ….why not stop the kids learning for 2 years …then, threaten them that unless they pass subject A and Subject B then they will make your life even more hellish….what a great plan 👏 ( Slow ) 👏

  36. @amirmohammadnoormohammad5590

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Kindly remember Afghanistan 🇦🇫 please.

  37. @nickhoman1999

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Universities are just another business. My brother just retired from a international company that have now stopped taking university graduates in chemistry as they haven't the level of knowledge required. They have gone back to doing it day release, just so people get the bit of paper, but they get properly trained on the job.

  38. @blunelson8226

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Yes we should stop them from going to uni if they don't have a c in English & math.

  39. @rosemaryhowes8047

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Well why not, when my younger sister went to university, the requirement for all students was that they had to pass Maths. I don't know about English unless I ask her, but absolutely you should have Maths. Perhaps they shouldn't go then and look at a career job that you dont need maths and English, not sure what that would be though, living in Britain.!!!!

  40. @daveylaney6644

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    She's got an E in maffs. Eksolent stuff.

  41. @manoo422

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Surely degree entry qualification is based on A levels…?

  42. @embalmertrick1420

    December 29, 2023 at 2:13 am

    Good, not e everyone should go to university. In other countries the experiment of giving free education was a disaster. Taxpayers pay for hundreds of doctors who never found a job and ended up as taxi drivers. What about the kids studying silly degrees like "queer studies" 🙄 where are they going to work?

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