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Biden and Lula have more in common than you think – BBC News
US President Joe Biden and Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva Lula are set to meet at the White House.
From their right-wing challengers to climate concerns, some may say the two leaders have a lot in common.
But perhaps the most important issue facing the leaders of the world’s two biggest presidential democracies will be convincing their own nations, and the world, that democracy is alive and well.
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The US said it has hit “dozens” of Iranian military targets in overnight attacks, in response to Iran hitting commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
The military said it struck “air-defense systems, coastal radar sites, missile and drone capabilities, and small boats”, using aircraft, ships, and drones – including “one-way attack sea drones for the first time”.
“The Strait of Hormuz is a vital maritime corridor for global trade,” the US military said. “Iran does not control it”.
In response, Iran said it targeted US bases in Jordan, Bahrain, and Kuwait and also radar systems in Oman.
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President Donald Trump has said the US is reinstating a naval blockade of Iranian ports and will impose a 20% charge on all cargo shipped through the Strait of Hormuz following days of escalating strikes between the two countries.
He said this would stop “Iran’s ships or customers” from entering or leaving the key oil shipping route, but “all other countries will have fair and open use of the Strait”.
Iran’s foreign minister later said whoever provides safe passage “should be compensated for this service”, but Iran would remain the strait’s “GUARDIAN” – using Trump’s word.
Tehran and Washington clashed over the strait’s control after exchanging strikes in the region overnight and on Monday.
The US said it carried out strikes against military targets in Iran, targeting air defence systems, coastal radars, and missile and drone sites. Iran said it responded by striking US military bases in Kuwait, Jordan and Bahrain, and radars in Oman.
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Wildfires of ‘exceptional scale’ have taken force in Paris, as neighbouring Spain still tackles flames across the country following its own devastating fires.
Now the UK is also experiencing wildfires in England and Wales, as its third heatwave of the year is set to intensify again this week.
Here’s what we know so far about the extent of wildfires in Europe and the UK, and how heatwaves are impacting them.
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Explosions have been heard near two Iranian port cities, Bandar Abbas and Bushehr, state media has reported.
It comes after another night of strikes between the US and Iran, with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps saying it hit two UAE tankers in the Strait of Hormuz and targeted US facilities in Jordan and Bahrain.
The UAE called the attack “brazen”, adding that an Indian crew member was killed and eight others were injured.
Meanwhile, the US military says it completed strikes on targets aimed at degrading “Iran’s ability to attack commercial shipping” – Iranian state media reports three people were killed.
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The US military said it was carrying out a new wave of strikes on targets in Iran. It said the aim of the attacks was to degrade Iran’s ability to attack shipping in the strait of Hormuz. It came ass the US Navy resumed its blockade of Iran’s ports.
Iran said that control of the strait of Hormuz was required for its national security and it will exercise sovereignty over the key shipping lane, whatever the cost.
President Trump announced that he was scrapping a plan he had announced a day earlier, for placing a 20% toll or tariff on all cargos passing through the strait of Hormuz.
Clive Myrie presents BBC News at Ten reporting by Sarah Smith in Washington.
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@jordanlowie7478
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Oh I think they have A TON in common. 🤡 💩
@user-dk5ep2pm2p
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
They're both Communist dictators?
@GamesTube80
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
The things that Biden and Lula have in common:
Corrupt
@Nicks4004
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Oh yes, so much in common… 😂 and by now Biden is already being betrayed by Lula against USA and supporting Russia on international stage. Ahahahaha Do the L for "Lula", Biden.
@Diego-tm3dj
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
US and Brazil have common history past, both were european colonies, have slavery and segregation. I am portuguese and brazil is kid of Portugal, US are the british kid.
@LifeDL
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Biden and Lula have more in common than you think ….. and it's not good
@dmg1518
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Lula da Silva should present part of Brazil to Putin to appease and calm this crocodile down.
@vitornesi7156
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
No, thank god they don't
@brazilianniceguy
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Both love children?
@karenromero1703
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
We used to have energy independence and a secured border. I hope your beautiful country doesn’t suffer like the USA has.
@paddyo3841
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Jabocidal maniacs
@zoolhert3535
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Borh will destroy country
@rererep1109
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
I literally don’t know which one is more deplorable, I’m leaning more towards lula because Biden doesn’t even know where he is.
@LG-2255
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
missing there is Jeremy Corbyn
@Robbby840
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
I love Brazilians ❤️ 🇺🇸 🇧🇷
@appluverapk
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
PLEASE BBC 🙏!!! I'm from the United States and My President Joe Biden is Nothing like Brazil's President Lula DaSilva… President Biden is a Right Leaning Corporate Democrat. Biden is Pro Wall Street, Pro U.S Imperialism, Pro War, Pro intervention, Pro Theft of Resources, Pro Destabilization and Pro Coup. President Biden Lies more then He actually tells the American People the Truth but that's No Different then All the Other U.S President during My Lifetime. In My Lifetime so Reagan – Biden and All of Them Never did anything Good for 90% of Americans who have lived through each of Their Administration's. I have to say One Thing for sure They All sure put in a lot of Time Terrorizing the Rest of the World making the World a lot less Safe…
@mtulio6422
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
They're both nuts and "won" by a very "reliable" electoral voting system
@thetruth7633
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Like Herman and Heinrich?
@aimaradiaz1840
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Yeah…they are both corrupt politicians. Selling their countries to China. And yes, they both stole the elections. Lula is a marxists. And Biden is a puppet of the leftist American marxists.
@angelina22ist
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Lula is corrupt and a total demagogue. He was in jail for corruption ( thief), bribed judges, politicians, media, so on and so forth..and now he’s an unelected president ( rigged).
@sentinel7192
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Of course they have a lot in common lets see.
They both got to power by election fraud and the help of the Dominion votin machines.
They both are corruct criminals , marxist lovers , phedifiles , satanic dirtbags , old farts who hate democracy and prosecute their opposition.
Yes you are rigth they have a lot in common.
THEY ARE CRIMINALS..
@TheReneporto190
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Biden was a prisoner?
@TheReneporto190
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Yah, the corruption.
@axxessmundi
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
That's an Indian wench not an American. Maybe when modi comes to town she can translate or play the clarinet when he comes to town.
@standstand6569
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
The biased BBC on the Biden campaign team trail 👎👎👎
@davidgray8321
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Surely they aren't BOTH suffering from dementia?
@cinnamon_9626
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Great points for discussion. They just forgot that Brazil still belongs to the Global South. But the other points were much appreciated. Thank you BBC reporters!
@alexwatson2332
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
They’re both corrupt and proven criminals and they both stole their last election?
@alexengels2023
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
When you say that they have a lot in common, you mean that Biden is a convicted corrupt too?
@jpyoung9259
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Two of them hate freedom
@4restknight404
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Definitely they have more in common "Election theft by manipulating the votes"… LMAO
@CoronelAkiles
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
We stand for democracy.
@auro1986
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
bbc rigged elections similarly
@solycamargo4559
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Lula does not respect democracy or even the Brazilian constitution and under his government Brazil lives a dictatorship.
@solycamargo4559
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Lula has more in common with George Santos.
@DarlyaFaroeste
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
The USA tried to frame Lula in corruption schemes but it did not work. He was pronounced innocent. Brazilians are wise hahaha! Love Lula. Good over evil, social democracy is it!
@NoName-mq3us
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Both rigged their elections.
@bicabica4003
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
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@zebarros3915
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Unanimously condemned for corruption to 12 years in prision and ineligible by 19 independent judges in 3 different and indepedent courts. Corrupted Union Leader that stole billions from Petrobras ($6 billion were recovered and three treasurers of his party confessed). He only was freed because his party indicated 7 of the 11 judges of the Supreme Court, the same that conducted the 2022 election. Lula strongly supports dictatorships of Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela and during his administration the Amazon had the highest deforestation rate in history. The big media dominated by radical left supports Lula and creates this false image
@ThinkPositiveDude
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
2 vastly rich nations whose futures are in the hands of 80 year olds.
@brianconnor7828
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
One thing not in common: Lula doesn't give that warmonger and coke head Zelensky whilst the warmonger Biden gives billions of pounds to Ukraine. There is a big difference…..Lula is not being blackmailed by Zelensky for fear of what he will reveal on his 50000 dollars a month rent, Zelenskys coke head friend and "business" colleague crackhead Hunter Biden.
@XSportSeeker
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Brazilian here!
So, just to comment on some stuff about this.
I'm fairly sure that whatever model of governance, sources of information, and general political strategy Trump is following… Bolsonaro pretty much directly imported for his government. There are all these small signs of evidence here and there that Bolsonaro's politics were coordinated outside the country… it's not just that Bolsonaro was a Trump fan, there are too many similarities and weird cultural mistranslations to be just trying to copy things. I think this needs to be investigated further by international bodies for the sake of democracies all around the world.
The fact that we are a newer democracy might be exactly what put us in a better position to fight against Bolsonaro's attempt to reinstate military dictatorship down here… in general, because we got back our democracy more recently, it seems institutions, laws, and general population sentiment rejected the idea more strongly – even though we had a good number of fanatics and crazy people calling for a military take over.
"For Brazil, China is the main trade partner, to the US, China is a major antagonist".
Erm… sorry, but China is the 3rd biggest trade partner to the US too. 😛 It's not a major antagonist to us though.
Brazil being a developing nation with less global trade partners is more dependent on Chinese imports and exports, that is true. But you know… we'd welcome more trade relations with all other nations to reduce this dependency. 😀
There is another major historical difference between Brazil and the US that is often not brought about in international media that I'll just leave here. We both had a bad stint regarding environmentalism and fight against Climate Change with our past far right governments, but it's always good to mention that Brazil has been on the forefront of fight against Climate Change for longer, whereas the US only joined climate talks more recently in history.
For those who don't know or just weren't born yet, the series of talks that culminated in the Paris Agreement started decades ago in the Earth Summit back in early 90s in Rio de Janeiro. International press seems highly focused on Paris Agreement and to a point other historical events like Kyoto Protocol, but I find it super weird how it's often not mentioned that this entire movement started with the Earth Summit that had multiple talks happening in Rio de Janeiro in the early 90s.
There has been lots of talks about the Amazon forest burning down due to Brazilian government negligence, which is fair and a reason for worry, but I just find it weird how little has been talked that not only Brazil has been participating in Climate talks for way longer than most developed nations, we are also way ahead of several other nations in some things like renewable power generation. Just look at this chart:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-electricity-fossil-nuclear-renewables?country=OWID_WRL~CHN~IND~USA~GBR~FRA~AUS~SWE~ZAF~JPN~BRA
It's not that I think it's ok we let the Amazon burn, that we can't do more, or that Bolsonaro's term wasn't catastrophic for Climate Change and our environment… but you know, sometimes it's infuriating to hear International press saying the US is on the forefront of Climate Change talks when I quite remember the Bush administration refusing to participate in talks, Obama participating but not actually doing much about it, and then Trump getting out of the accord altogether.
It's also infuriating how during Bolsonaro's administration there was this high focus on Bolsonaro's term and the fires in the Amazon that painted Brazil as some evil country that was making Climate Change worse, overlooking the fact that we've historically been in Climate Change talks from the beginning, and that we're a country with one of the highest percentages of renewable power globally.
Anyways, all of this aside, I hope Lula and Biden can have a good conversation that will turn out in better agreements and better relationships for good things to come. Other than economic and trade reasons, both countries need to put their heads together to strengthen democracy and reduce wealth disparity in both nations.
@maxmentone5373
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
the big midia in Brasil financed by the financial markets are against Lula, but Brazil had peace and prosperity under Lula. He is the best lider current times.
@magatism
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Yep, both are going to be thrown out in disgrace.
@luvlyxbrrys6532
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Biden… hide yours and your wife's cellphones! 👮♂️🚓🚨
@luvlyxbrrys6532
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Biden's son is a crackhead and Lula's wife is a crackhead as well! They have lots in common!
@MultiMrrog
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
i doubt lula is a pea do phil though !
@jujucsgo
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
This man stolen Brazil and use poverty to win votes, the biggest liar. BBC who killed Celso Daniel? That’s the question we would like to know. Who killed Eduardo Campos??
@Igor-oo1tv
January 20, 2024 at 1:54 pm
Hide your cellphone Biden! 🚨👮♂️🚓