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Three Arguments in Favour of Scottish Independence – TLDR News

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It seems possible that the SNP and Scottish Greens are about to form a pro-independence alliance, so we thought we’d run through the arguments in favour of a Scottish exit. So in this video we discuss three major arguments used by those proposing Scottish independence and debate whether those arguments really stand up.

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  1. @TLDRnews

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    CORRECTION: At 2:06 the 2017 results should have been 35 instead of 54 – sorry for any confusion caused

  2. @user-gf1kt7bh2y

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scotland will never leave the United Kingdom. Fact! We need money , security friendship and most importantly democracy. The SNP are delusional idiots who have proved conclusively over a long period of time they cannot govern, or for that manner run a bath!

  3. @JohnRowsell

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Good riddance

  4. @4Alasdair9

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Devolution is for small nations what social democracy is for workers – the ruling nation or class only gives it reluctantly and hopes to strip it away as soon as they can

  5. @robertnilsson7063

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Do not underestimate the danger from Norway. They can be hard to deal with.
    Promise

  6. @normanedwards7220

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Ask yourself why , with so much support the s.n.p. did not get a mandate for independence, …….eeerrmmmmmm …….because most of the Scots voted against it , the s.n.p. minority shout loudly , in order to create the impression that there are more of them than there actually are , they are the minority, who can not accept a democratic vote result

  7. @trismica

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    yasss free alba

  8. @user-ce6zp7pg1n

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    singapore left malaysia in 1963.look at where they are now.

  9. @SymphonyBrahms

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Independence for Scotland NOW!

  10. @eveningstar3230

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    absolute tosh

  11. @Aubert1926

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    At this point even England want independence!

    The only way to solve this is:

    1• Reforming the UK constituencies so England, Scotland and Wales have each one 210 sits on Westminster.

    2• Create an English parliament to rule only England issues.

    3• Ensure that Greater London will be independent from England and rather the seen as the capital of the United Kingdom (something like Washington DC or Ottawa) while the City of London will be the Capital of England.

    4• To give more power to the local governments but keep the importance of Westminster, so Holyrood, Cardiff, Belfast and the City of London will control all the local issues and even make laws that affect only the local population (Without contradict the UK laws) while Westminster will control the all UK issues, defense foreign affairs and laws that affect all the UK.

    🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

  12. @blahbleh5671

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    "How bad could it be", what kind of an argument is that

  13. @eyemallears2647

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    SNP: “let’s be independent!”
    also SNP: “let’s be dependent on the EU!”

  14. @creelbait

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    The SNP do so well at the polls because there is no alternative. The Scots have been indocrinated from birth to hate Tories and Labour under Corbyn were completely unelectable so the votes just fell into their laps.
    Now Labour are making a comeback in the polls, the SNP will no longer be untouchable.
    You forgot to mention all those lovely wind generators are foreign owned and the SNPs new pimps the Greens will veto any future oil and coal bonus.

  15. @carltonhouse1297

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Charles have to sell their properties soon

  16. @angkukuey007

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scotland has its own laws and customs distinct from England. I can think of more than 3 good reasons for it to go out independent one reason being that Scotland is not so beholden and besotted with their American cousins the USA.

  17. @iain7450

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    What does England give Scotland thou. I'm in England but I'd support Scotland if they leave

  18. @andygalloway2298

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    I'd like to see Scotland go abolish the Barnet structure and give the money and the pound back let them take a 2000 pound hit to every man woman and child let's be honest if there money gets devalued against Sterling it will get even worse good look

  19. @rensha8635

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Take your independence and see what happens to the rights of women under the SNP and Sturgeon.

  20. @johnfife3062

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Lumping Scottish independence in with Trump and Brexit is sour milk.

  21. @vivithedemonsquirrel1543

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Norwegian invasion?

    Huh… is this a new viking age?

    Are Norwegians raiding the coast again?

  22. @lawrencebishton9071

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    I will have put a latch start button on instead 🤣

  23. @lawrencebishton9071

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Ya non runners get a bout these days here I ham jogging around

  24. @rhize797

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Doesn;t matter what figures you use. The legacy of Scotland has been determined by the UK. Taking Scotland back into the hands of the Scottish people will change the priorities and trajectory of the country.

  25. @casuallavaring

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scotland should join the Eurozone to resolve the Currency issue.

  26. @jimmyquigley7561

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    The Scottish fiscal deficit is because the oil, gas and whisky taxes/revenues are not published and go directly to England. Scotland is a rich country ripped off by it's colonial oppressor.Apply the Thatcher criterion and Scotland would have been independent: rich and European a decade ago.

  27. @deannilvalli6579

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    You seem to have overlooked what is now the most principal argument- Scotland wants to be in the EU. That will ever happen while it is in the UK. There is no path to Single Market memebrship, to EFTA membership, to rejoining the EU, while in the UK. There really isn't a path to any of those things. So while independence is no guarantee of that, they are all definitely impossible without independence.

  28. @ham7696

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    The English empire must be completely destroyed, for this Scotland must be independent.

  29. @andyhurrell

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    If the Scottish Labour party voters hadn't defected en masse to the SNP the UK might have rid itself of the Conservatives years ago. That said, an independent Scotland would be a more attractive idea if people like Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond and Ian Blackford weren't involved. And there again, how would Scotland be 'independent' if it joined the EU? It would be a case of out of the frying pan and back into the biomass furnace.

  30. @user-ju4of5pl9y

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scottish children complained to their parents' that, they are bad speaking scottish language, and they asked them:
    Either teachers teach it well in schools or you have to teach it us at homes
    F. Northmans

  31. @Peter-uy3ti

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scottish independence.
    Och ay
    Said Nessie,but who's gunna pay for ma deep fried Mars bar's?
    Och it's no right

  32. @samuelb-1406

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    As a Nigerian-American, I fully support Scottish Independence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. No more English imperialistic rule. Go Scots!

  33. @johnoneill9056

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    I love Scotland and the Scots i met and i would like them to stay within the UK.

    However i believed in Brexit and for that reason Scotland should have a voice to give their opinion on Brexit and have a second referendum.

    Should the leavers win i don't think the EU would would have the time or desire to have all these arguments again.

    Also with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and a belligerent china i’m not sure a lot of countries would want us to have to return our nuclear weapons to the USA.

  34. @oysteroid4030

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Don't need 3 reasons. You don't owe them any reason.
    Instead they stole the North Sea Gas and Oil.

  35. @peterwilson5528

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scotland will be the next Switzerland out of the UK. Small population. Most of UK water, fisheries, top eduction institutions, tourism and lots of oil and gas. Next to the soon to be fully united Ireland. And a loved ex part of the EU. Alba gu bràth.

  36. @steezysalad2236

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    Scottish education ain’t great

  37. @claddaghproducciones6994

    December 28, 2023 at 12:40 pm

    7:00 well, that one didnt age very well!

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