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  1. @davelocktalk

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    I am very disappointed that labour aren't talking about rejoining the European union, but I know proportional representation must be brought into Westminster to save the uk union so if labour party won't talk about the European Union then it better start talking about proportional representation to save the uk?

  2. @firstpostcommenter8078

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Rejoin EU i.e. join Schengen and peg the Pound to EURO?
    Lets see how much support it has in the UK.

    UK has to prove that it has left behind the antiquated views of british nationalism/exceptionalism if they are to ever rejoin. Which means, it is not possible to skip Schengen

  3. @andrewthacker114

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Gutless Labour Party.Starmer should run on the rejoin platform, I think he’d do well. But if you are wishy washy , who’s going to vote for that ?

  4. @scotthendry6298

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    If they do my votes gone

  5. @ekesandras1481

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Because Labor is Marxist, or at least was Marxist, and like all Marxists in the world at the end of their life circle, they turn nationalists.

  6. @sandrahaywood3367

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    BREXIT THERE NEVER WAS ONE****JOHNSON ONLY EVER REACHED BRINO
    THEN HE *PARKED IT*SO HIS TORY REMAINER CIVIL SERVANTS FRIENDS IN DOWNING STREET
    WHO LIKE SUCKING ON THE EU FEDERALIST TEAT…******DID NOT START CRYING

  7. @sandrahaywood3367

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    BECAUSE THE EU ***STINKS

  8. @Knappa22

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Why? They’re running scared of the thickos and headbangers in the red wall, that’s why.
    And due to our broken voting system, they must win those seats back at the next election.
    It’s academic anyway. The EU doesn’t want us back with our whining and obstructive ways.

  9. @IntheSpotlight123

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Brexit Status 2023:

    1. Brexit is DONE, EU doors are shut and Brexit cannot be reversed.

    2. The treaty cannot be renegotiated

    3. The existing treaty will not be replaced by a new one.

    4. Joining/rejoining the EU/Single Market, Customs Union, EFTA etc. The EU/27 member states have the last word in it if a country wants to join and/or to rejoin after it just has left (including the Single Market/Customs Union). The EU/27 have the last word in it! So no country can join those without the specific permission from the EU/27 member states!

    5. UK is not part of the Dublin agreement and now is a third country.

    6. Reversing Brexit, by being on record for:

    – not being reliable,

    – not being trustworthy (Vladimir Putin style),

    – having had a PM who was a pathetic liar (from the clown to the clone),

    – breaching international law on treaties, i.e. EU/UK treaty,

    – breaching the UNCHR Refugee Convention 1951 and its 1967 Protocol,

    – campaigning to leave the ECHR,

    – campaigning against the EU/27 member states a la 1930s – 1945s Germany and Adolf Hitler style, (Gary Lineker is so right)

    – inciting hate and violence against EU and by insulting them,

    it is to no surprise, if the EU/27 member states are more than happy to say:

    "Thanks but NO Thanks"

    Just the same answer Turkey received the 14 April 1987 when it applied to join the EU and didn't succeed.

    So no worries about that one. It ain't be happening. The querulant sewage surrounded Little Britain is not welcome in the EU!

    It is like the old saying: "Once burned, twice shy." And so is the EU.

    Maybe the UK can try that in about a century's time!

    Result: GB is Not Welcome!

  10. @johnwhitcher4761

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    EU has same problems as UK as does rest of western nations.
    We have joined CPTPP & have not
    Felt the benefits yet.
    People say it's to far away but so
    is China the main supplier ofgoods we have in our homes.

  11. @5888max

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    I maybe should have voted Labour in 2019 , but just could not have stomach their leadership , bit if Labour now promised to re join the single market , they would have my vote

  12. @bomberdores1

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Not on your Nelly we voted to leave the eu now the government needs to do it

  13. @stshar900

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Why on earth would we wish to re join the EU in its current form and unelected so called leaders

  14. @stshar900

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Never …

  15. @BillVanner-cq3vn

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    The EU had all the privileges of our money. We had no privileges. We should give the crooked EU a very wide berth.

  16. @davidliston5002

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Labour now are the new tory party .

  17. @normanedwards7220

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Labour can do nothing , we , the people decide what happens , and when , politicians merely implement what we decide , ….they do as they are told or another party will , …they decide nothing , they are our servants ,

  18. @humanbeing4841

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    The UK voted to LEAVE and that's that. The EU is a declining protectionist superstate by every metric. It was good to vote to leave when the UK did. The question is though, did the UK REALLY leave despite voting for it???

  19. @howarddavies8937

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    It's absurd to pre judge how the EU would respond if we applied to rejoin. For the sake of the economy we have to apply and if necessary hold another referendum as soon as possible. Politicians of influence in the EU seem to be generally favourable. If a Labour administration fails to act on this over the next five years and our economy is in the same dismal state the electorate could well turn back to the Tories and Keir Starmer will have wasted five years. Moreover reapplying to rejoin the EU is a wonderful opportunity to put the right wing in their place. 🇪🇺🇪🇺

  20. @lesleysylvestre6821

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    No, no, no to rejoining EU. Pull hpur socks up GB.

  21. @Martini923

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    6 Jul 2022 — The Labour Party leader said that the UK “will not go back into the EU” under a Labour government, as he gave his first speech on the issue

  22. @keithdickinson2819

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Ai is the most favourites that was ever inventrod

  23. @johnbraggins3294

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    We don't need the eu .they need us.

  24. @amarjeetsehmi8995

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Yes, labor is labor with all equal unlike conervatives.

  25. @user-gu5nr8qe9y

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    IF THEY PLAN TO – THEY WILL HAD ELECTION RESULT TO: LIB DEMS OR NIGEL FARAGE !!!

  26. @Iskelderon

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Would be pointless. After decades of the UK's petulant child behavior, torpedoing the greater good until they could extort personal caveats, sometimes even just plain whoring themself out to the US to sabotage EU projects, as long as the veto or anything like it will exist, the UK will not be allowed back in and deservedly so.

  27. @lesskeels3417

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Do me a favour, Starmer couldn't rejoin an appropriate queue for a hypothetical bus, and I'm not talking about the Boris bus, either.

  28. @NC.237

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Arrogance finally meets its fate rejection

  29. @westsideisdabest7825

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Nope. The bridge has been crossed now, returning wouldn't be the same as we had things before.

  30. @pavelstebl9966

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    They should but they won't.

  31. @andrewabel3927

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Well on rejoining the EU one of the preconditions is that the applicant has to agree to adopt the Euro (bye bye £) and possibly join the Schengen area. Both will not go down well with Johny English.

  32. @speedymccreedy8785

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Yes all that extra taxation required so that Britain can pay for its own EU membership plus chip in for other EU countries that wont pay their own share, about 20 billion pounds annually. When Starmer gets in we need a new EU tax to be imposed on everyone that supports EU membership.

  33. @jamesallen9630

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Boris won an 80 seat majority by harnessing the brexit vote – why would Starmer wont to throw it away

  34. @gielhanna

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    When the 2 major parties do the opposite of what the people wish, you're pretty much screwed.

  35. @jal051

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    What other choice does Labor have, for real? If they promise a rejoin all they are going to get is a "sorry but no" from the EU. All they can promise is to manage a softer brexit and improve relationship with the EU, but in no way a rejoin.

  36. @benjaminwilliams2264

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Red wall

  37. @Antony-qp7jr

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    YES !!! IF LABOUR SAID THEY WOULD REJOIN THE EU IF THEY GOT INTO POWER, THEY BE IN 10 DOWNING STREET WITHIN 12 MONTHS
    REJOIN EU 💓 💕❤️❤️💜❤️💜

  38. @louisjefferies2733

    December 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    I doubt starmer believes that brexit is ok because he was a fervent remainer and you have to be a massive idiot to go from being pro eu to being pro brexit

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