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Ukraine front line troops discuss counter-offensive against Russia as second month begins – BBC News

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The counter-offensive by Ukrainian troops against Russia, now entering its second month, has been met with fierce resistance – as well as criticism from within Ukraine that not enough progress is being made.

It has been an extremely costly operation, but many experts say that the country needs more time to prepare for a strategic breakthrough.

Some soldiers and observers are starting to wonder if a breakthrough is possible, or whether Russia’s defensive lines, built up and heavily-reinforced over the winter months, are simply too much of a barrier.

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  1. @leodgardkatonkola8923

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    I don't understand why western countries hate Russians to this extent most of western people are Christians and instead of promoting peace they pumping destructive weapons to fueling killing of young Ukrainians and Russians

  2. @leodgardkatonkola8923

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Try to think had it been you in those trenches hundreds of Ukrainian are dying every day just to empress americans and British. This Ukrainian president is evil he doesn't care how many Ukrainians Ukrainians are dying every day as long as his masters are happy

  3. @leodgardkatonkola8923

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    BBC full of lies and wishful thinking about Ukraine as if your correspondent didn't go to school

  4. @amandarussack8591

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Counter-offensive against Russia? Not really successful………..

  5. @longandshort6639

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    This can stop overnight if Putin withdraws.

  6. @longandshort6639

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    They need close air cover. F16s for example. And ATACMS.

  7. @thokozanimbambo50

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    In the end the superior army (Russia) will win this war

  8. @OlegUshyarov

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Russia for the win against Nato in Ukraine 🇷🇺🫡

  9. @johnadam2885

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Earlier, the same western experts said that the first 72 hours are critical, and Ukraine must punch through the Russian lines and advance swiftly (blitz krieg) to Melitiopol and the Sea of Azov, and cut off the connexion with Crimea. This is how breaching operations are done. The expectation was the Russians would be disoriented and retreat, and Ukraine would be able to dictate peace terms. They said Ukraine must not get bogged down in an attritional war as that is to Russia's advantage.

    Now after 1 month, the Bandera army lost a huge amount of manpower and the wonder game changing weapons of the west, without even reaching the first Russian line. So western 'experts' have revised the narrative, now they say Ukraine needs more time for the strategic breakthrough, and this is the inherent nature of the thing. The video says it is too early to say Ukraine has won or lost ! What a way of putting it. Ukrainains certainly have not won, and the evidence suggests they are losing.

    The reality is Ukraine and the west have lost. Consider the facts.

    Russia has taken 4 oblasts. They have taken time out and fortified their positions.

    Ukraine is not able to breach the Russian lines because it does not have enough munitions; the soldier in the video says without them, Ukraine will lose.

    Ukraine cannot make the munitions, as Russia has destroyed their factories. The west cannot make enough artillery shells, tank shells etc. Biden has admitted that, and given it as the reason for sending cluster bombs.

    Ukraine does not have air cover to advance on the Russian position. It will be well past next year before any F 16s arrive and the Russians will have solutions for that also.

    Western equipment has proven to be shoddy and ineffective in the battlefield. See the Bradleys, Leopards and French tank with tyres. The Patriots were hit and damaged. They have instructed the Challenger tanks to be kept away from the front lines !

    The US wanted Ukraine in NATO since 2008 and in 2014 it arranged a coup in Ukraine to advance that. But in 2023, the US does not allow Ukraine into NATO ! The reason given is Ukraine has to do more to democratise and cut corruption. The US had no problem backing Nazi groups like Right Sector and Azov Batallion in the 2014 coup, and Biden and his family had profitable dealings with Ukraine due to the corruption. The real reason the US does not want Ukraine in NATO in 2023 is that it will demand Article 5 and the US will have to send troops to Ukraine. In which case the Russians will kill the Americans, on a bigger scale than they faced even in Vietnam. You just have to look at the US intervention in Somalia. The Somalis shot down a Black Hawk with RPGs, and the Americans sent more Black Hawks to rescue the first, and two more were lost. 20 Americans were killed, and their bodies were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. The scenes were broadcast on US TV, and the Americans ran away from Somalia after that. So one can imagine if they entered Ukraine due to Article 5, the Russians will shoot American helicopters and tanks, they will not drag the bodies through Moscow, but they will publish videos of the tanks being destroyed with missiles (like the Leopards), and no US politician will survive.

    Finally, Russia has withstood the sanctions and they have saddled the west with inflation and de-industrialisation and de-dollarisation. So Russia has won the economic war as well.

    This defeat is difficult to admit for the west. But reality will catch up. The US will abandon Ukraine like Afghanistan and Iraq. And Europe cannot fight Russia.

  10. @user-zi4dg9jk9h

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    BS Counteroffensive… gains nothing drains more.

  11. @TheRajmoney

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    probably with Ukraine is overall tactic. they should use guerilla warfare than directly engaging Russia.
    they should allow russia to move in a bit and the engage in guerilla warfare. Far more effective.
    whole counter offensive is a total failure. thats just a gimmic for west to sell weapons and launder tax money into politicians pockets.

  12. @TheRajmoney

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    BBC network has a history covering up child abuse by their network staff.
    indirectly engage in warcrimes by inciting war propaganda.

  13. @amicizia45

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Zelensky is aware that the Ukrainian troops will never retake the territories of the former Russian regions : Crimea, Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson . Russian is the main language of 74.9% of residents in Donetsk Oblast and 68.8% in Luhansk Oblast. Residents of Russian origin are mainly concentrated in the larger urban centers. Russian became the main language and lingua franca in the course of industrialisation. These regions have been defensive lines since 2014.

  14. @johndrover6005

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    If Ukraine are denied membership into NATO, the West will have 2 choices:

    -Admit this proxy war was a disaster and go into peace talks with Russia

    Or

    -Continue pretending Ukraine stand a chance and watch Russia slaughter Ukraine’s army down to the last man

    Whats it gonna be?

  15. @paulsmith1981

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Washington sees this war as its best hope of enacting regime change in Moscow. That's the reason peace talks are out of the question and the slaughter of these young men continues.

  16. @IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    And the counteroffensive has been an utter disaster😂😂 1km advance and 20k Ukrainian casualties yet they still can't even breach Russia's 1st line of defence.

  17. @super_happy_alien509

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Uk and US should put a task force togeather and send it to st petersburgs to open a 2nd front. best way to end this war.

  18. @joseaugustofigueiredo2796

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Let's go! Sustained media with the embezzlement practiced with the dollar! Put Ukraine in NATO. They won't pay more for waxing! The whole world knows that what really hurts is the kick that the great and magnanimous nation in the bag of dollars! End of fraud practiced with the dollar!
    Ukraine "confirms the terrorist character of its state" after confession over Crimean bridge
    Ukraine publicly recognizes the terrorist character of its country after the confirmation of the Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defense that Kiev organized the explosion of the Crimean Bridge in October 2022, Russian Senator Vladimir Dzhabarov said.

  19. @joseaugustofigueiredo2796

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Vladimir Putin! He is just the president worthy of the great, magnanimous and victorious Russian nation over the so-called global rulers and other bosses and associates of the Nazis.

  20. @Teponecc

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    It’s ok to judge Russia as failure’s immediately.

    But if Ukraine has been getting their ass kicked all month “it’s not fair to judge them so soon” 😂

  21. @woodmax1

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    The BBC telling us what to think "counter offensive is in its infancy" LMAO – what a load of crap. Ukraine is getting it's ass kicked and Russia should be out of ammo soon right??

  22. @50RobinHill

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Pointless sacrifice of young lives, fuelled by idiot warmongers who talk about 'victory' as if this were ever a realistic possibility. And these people are generals, air marshals and whatnot in our own military? I grew up in the 1960s, when the cold war was kept that way by a thing called 'diplomacy'. Apparently, that no longer exists – only mindless propaganda.

  23. @petermai4293

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Running out of weapons, barely made any gain, desperately wanting to use cluster bombs from the US, … all the signs to be doing the impossible or the US and Western allies are asking for the impossible. All they can hope now is that the Russians lose their will and no longer have the resources to fight. The US did not lose in the battles of Vietnam and Afghanistan. They just lost the will to fight. But the Russians show no sign of losing the will to fight and the US and Europe will have to wait for probably another 20 more years. The question is will Ukraine have 20 years to wait? Will the US and Europe have the will to provide Ukraine with another 20 years of support? Europe is a continent depleted of natural resources. The US is also running out of resources. Unless the US and Europe are willing to send troops in and face Russian nuclear weapons, Ukraine will lose. In the case of NATO entering this war, all sides will lose. It's a loose-loose situation for all sides.

  24. @WeWazKangz

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Only counteroffensive was proxy puppet zelenskyy blowing up the dam ✅

  25. @lw1zfog

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    PNAC PROXY PUPPETS
    PNAC PROXY WAE
    $LAVE UKRAINE

  26. @kanyeakwehoulaye9728

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    You guys say the truth Ukrainians are losing .

  27. @EstradaPablo

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    NATO will fight until the last Ukrainian … sad

  28. @ismayawe945

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    You have lied since the beginning of the conflict,,but Ukraine keeps on getting defeated

  29. @ivataiwan2068

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Keep going Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪💪

  30. @ivataiwan2068

    January 8, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Ofcourse,nazi Ukraine advancing, advancing to hell 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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