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Coronavirus: Whitty and Vallance faced ‘herd immunity’ backlash, emails show – BBC News

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As the UK introduces fresh restrictions on social contact to curb the spread of coronavirus, controversy continues to rage about whether the government had initially considered trying a very different approach.

At the start of the pandemic, the government’s chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, spoke about “herd immunity” – the idea that once enough of a population had been exposed to the virus, they would build up natural immunity to it.

Sir Patrick and the government have both insisted this was never official policy. The government also denies there was any delay in locking down the country, as some critics have suggested.

Emails obtained by the BBC reveal the alarm among the government’s top scientific advisers at the reaction to Sir Patrick’s words.

In one email from March, Sir Patrick asks for help to “calm down” academics who have expressed anger at his repeated references to herd immunity and the delays in announcing a lockdown.

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  1. @rubenverheij4770

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

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    It seems that the Omnicron-virus is the best immune-booster people can get. I hope the Omnicron-virus ends the CoV-crisis.

  2. @7shakespeare

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    There is much information available online about the epidemics of 1957 and 1968; I remember both. No media hysteria, muzzle wearing, distancing , TV brainwashing, or creative statistics. Wake up! Reclaim your freedom. Live again!

  3. @RidesInforests

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Done with the BBC. Don’t care if they try and claw things back and act like they have an ounce journalistic integrity.
    👋

  4. @John-xd7jg

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Whitty and valance should both be sacked , bloody stupid in not knowing what was coming again!!!!

  5. @agnt.geraldsinclairnsa6230

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Yes, Herd Immunity? A stampede of cows is seen running towards a cliff where they will ultimately die. Of the thousands of cows, one of the cows looks at another cow that's also on the run and asks, "Hey buddy, why are you running?" And that's when the other cow answers, "I don't know. I'm running because that other cow is running". WTF? People please…..wake up!

  6. @anoobiscooking1193

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Boris wanted this too. So dont forget to loop him in.

  7. @whiteboyrick1588

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Whitty and Valance are vaccine salesmen! The fear narrative is still being pushed despite the death to cases ratio at an all time low. We only have cases because the PCR test is so wildly inaccurate! Unbelievably 90+ tests are false positives!

  8. @Prometheus4096

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Eugenics!

  9. @darreng705

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    these 2 are corrupt liars, has the BBC reported on how Vallance has £600,000 worth of shares in GSK, the company contracted to produce the covid vaccine? they are both along with hancock deliberately trying to spread fear to the British people with totally bogus stats.

  10. @jacquelinemullan4900

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Total rubbish the virus was let in on propose so they could get as many off us infected so the goverment scientist's could get antibodies and a vaccine and to hell with the most vunerable in nursing homes, hospital's and others etc.The goverment and chief medical advisors etc should be all sacked and accountable for there lack of response to this crises as they are all a disgrace as round two of the thinning out begins……

  11. @leemendez7876

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    "Take Down the BBC" – https://youtu.be/t708LwKPTcs

  12. @andrewmartin6445

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    All the government advisors have obvious conflicts of interest in being beholden to big pharma and Gates, but none so obviously as Vallance.

  13. @terrymoore861

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Great strategy Boris, make everyone destitute so they cannot afford to go to the Trafalgar Square protest. Destroy the lives of as many as you can so even less can afford to protest. BBC news at 17.00 and no coverage yet masses of coverage for the destruction of statues and black lives matter protests. BBC even covered a small number of anti lockdown protests in USA and Europe, but none of the protests going on around this country and now the third one in Trafalgar Square. According to the government this Covid scam is the worst crisis to have hit the planet! You would think they would be unbiased and cover all the issues connected with the biggest tragedy the world has ever faced! With a quarter of the UK citizens now on lock down Valence and Whitty standing to make money out of their undeclared connections with the Pharmaceutical Industry one has to ask, are we all living a nightmare and will finally wake up? You could not make up all the corruption and idiotic behaviour within UK government. At least the Evening Standard have loaded a you tube video about the protest today in Trafalgar Square! Thank you Evening Standard and Russia Today for your excellent coverage! No wonder people are cancelling their BBC licence!

  14. @leemendez7876

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Trafalgar Square livestream NOW – https://youtu.be/RVqDKi8Qr6A

  15. @pottingshedgene

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    https://youtu.be/tfv6MmlW_W0 for real COVID figures

  16. @rudytrijanto2521

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Corona virus live update https://youtu.be/CEna8kXYAwA

  17. @leemendez7876

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Trafalgar Square. NOW….WAKE UP – https://www.bitchute.com/video/l9JeNB4Sa0wF/

  18. @djpomare

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Listened to Donald Trump = US Covid deaths = 208,440+

    Listened to common sense 3 point plan:

    Social distance, wash your hands and wear a mask.

    Taiwan = 7 (x29,777) New Zealand = 25 (x8,338) China = 4,634 (x45)

  19. @djpomare

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    5G, Tik Tok, & Huawei Security? or US 5 eyes spy network, Facebook under Covid19?

    USA 208,440+ UK 41,936 Canada 9,255
    Australia 870 NZ 25 China 4,634.

    Colonisation and Communism are both so last century. Vietnam 35 safer than US.

    China – 5G Cities. Japan – Flying cars. USA – Trump.

  20. @mikerochburns4104

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Follow the herd, but no to herd immunity.
    https://youtu.be/x_Cizl7ifkA

  21. @noahbody9782

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Approximate pandemic start date: 01-Dec-19
    Days of pandemic 300

    World population: 7,814,396,000
    Total Infections: 32,769,106
    Total % of World's population reported as infected: 0.42%
    Average days each individual actively infected: 7.76
    Average percent of the world's population actively infected at any time during the pandemic: 0.011%

    Total deaths attributed to covid-19: 993,540
    Total % of World population dying while infected: 0.013%
    Average global daily deaths attributed to covid-19: 3312
    Average global daily deaths from all causes of death: 146,000
    Percentage of global daily deaths attributed to covid-19*: 2.22%

    Percentage of World's population dying each day before the pandemic: 0.00187%
    Percentage of World's population dying each day during the pandemic:*: 0.00191%
    Percentage change in daily death rate due to covid-19*: 0.00004%

    *Assumes all the people who died with covid-19 would have lived if the pandemic never happened.

  22. @yuan9198

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Really cannot understand why you just cannot control it.

  23. @leemendez7876

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    TOMORROW. Trafalgar Square, 12 Noon 'Rally of the Century'. If you're local please come & join the peaceful protest. If you're not please share on social media everywhere – https://brandnewtube.com/@truthhunter789

  24. @leemendez7876

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    Turn off mainstream media & there is NO virus. WAKE UP. TOMORROW – https://www.bitchute.com/video/w0je7UkxYpIY/

  25. @chh6795

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    https://youtu.be/fKlvwPRh-ok

    Do you think you are born again just because you go to a church? Not all churches declare the Truth. On the contrary, your church could be a completely worldly church. For your own soul, you must come out of the churches that use the Bible but do not declare the Truth and speak lies differing from the bible. Hear what the Spirit of Truth says to the churches and receive the eternal gospel!!

  26. @eda2344

    January 3, 2024 at 12:11 am

    He was right. Herd immunity was the way to go whilst protecting the elderly. Why are they getting onto the scientists? When Boris has made so many gafs!! What’s wrong with hers immunity!!!!

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