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Nigel Farage has a 50/50 chance of becoming the next Prime Minister, a former Tory MP who defected to Reform UK has said.

Chris Green, 52, the former Conservative MP for Bolton West from 2015 to 2024, told Chopper’s Political Podcast that he had not yet decided whether to stand as a candidate for Reform at the next general election.

Green is one of three ex-Conservative MPs who lost their seats at last year’s general election and have now jumped ship to Reform UK. The other two were former deputy Tory party chairman Jonathan Gullis and Lia Nici.

00:00 – Welcome and Guest Introductions: Nigel Farage, Reform, and Welfare

01:23 – Interview with Sir Ian Duncan Smith (IDS) Begins: The Political Challenge of Cutting the Benefits Bill

02:24 – IDS’s Welfare Record: The Success of Universal Credit and Budget Reduction

03:23 – The Core Principle: Why Work Must Pay Better Than Benefits

04:35 – Why the Government Lacks Ambition on Welfare Cuts Despite Reviews

06:22 – The “Silent Majority” vs. The Loud Minority in the Welfare Debate

07:53 – Fixing the System: The Crisis in Sickness Benefit and Mental Health

09:59 – IDS on Kemi Badenoch: Assessing Her Backbone, Courage, and Future as a Conservative Leader

12:27 – The Importance of Proper Preparation in Politics: Learning from Thatcher

14:07 – IDS Reacts to the Defections of Former Colleagues to Reform UK

15:37 – Government’s “Arrogant” Attack on Democracy (Elections & Jury Trials)

17:35 – The Conservative Concept of Freedom vs. Labour’s Authoritarian Streak

18:20 – Freedom of Speech and Concerns Over the Islamophobia Definition

19:22 – IDS Opposes the Chinese Super Embassy and Details China as a Threat

23:10 – Interview with Chris Green (Reform UK Defector) Begins: Why He “Jumped Ship”

24:11 – Is Reform UK Too Dependent on Nigel Farage or Broadening Its Base?

26:07 – Chris Green Details His Decision to Defect to Reform UK

27:53 – Why Old Parties Are Like an “Old Computer” That Needs Replacing

28:57 – The Key Reform UK Policy That Attracted Chris Green: Challenging the Net Zero Agenda

30:44 – The Broad Appeal: Conservative and Labour Voters Are Shifting to Reform

33:53 – Chris Green’s Stunning Prediction: Nigel Farage as the Next Prime Minister

35:40 – Reaction to the Record-Breaking £9 Million Donation to Reform UK

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