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Thousands of Russians fighting for a Ukrainian passport – BBC News
More than 170,000 Russians are still living in Ukraine after their home nation launched its full-scale invasion on the country, according to figures from the State migration service.
Some are even fighting in Ukraine’s army. But their situation is complicated.
They say they can’t access basic services without a Ukrainian passport. To get that, they’d first have to travel to Russia to surrender their citizenship.
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@beverlyhills7883
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Why should the weather be involved in a brutal fight between two equally corrupt countries?!
@therovingrobin5938
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Geez, the propaganda here is getting desperate😂😂
@beesomsak6727
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
“Ukraine is on the path to authoritarianism,” the Mayor of Kiev Vitaly Klitschko has said. “There is only one independent institution left –local authorities– and they are under enormous pressure.”During the conflict, the central government has been communicating poorly, if at all, with local authorities, the mayor of the Ukrainian capital claimed.“In a year and a half since the beginning of the conflict with Russia, there has not been a single meeting or telephone conversation between [the city of] Kiev and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. At some point, we will get to the situation where everything depends on the mood of a single person,” Klitschko told Der Spiegel.
@carolyoung8945
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
And the ANTICHRIST MEDIA IS STILL LYING" Nobody wants to go to Ukraine
@sergeysergeev7564
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Why does everyone pretend that Ukraine is a normal country, and Zelensky is the president?
Let me remind you that in 2014, in Ukraine, internal terrorists seized power. The constitution and laws of the country were destroyed. Terrorists with weapons broke into the parliament and the president's house.
Later, these terrorists themselves appointed themselves the main ones in the country.
There was no impeachment. The legal president was fleeing death.
Now these terrorists are attacking the Russian regions.
Has everyone forgotten this? Why does everyone stubbornly pretend that Ukraine is a legitimate country? Since 2014 there is no country. The people in this territory is not a country, it's just a territory since 2014.
Zelensky is not legitimate, he has no right to govern. In fact, the rule of the territory of Ukraine is a crime.
The EU countries and the USA are aware of this but turn a blind eye to the criminals because the criminals agreed to fight with Russia, this suits the EU and the USA, so everyone pretends that the criminals of Ukraine are in power, this is normal.
It is not normal. Ukraine has been occupied by terrorists for 9 years.
@sergeysergeev7564
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Why did everyone abruptly forget that in 2014, in a country called Ukriana, terrorists seized the government and gained access to power? All zabli military takeover of the country?
Why does everyone pretend that this is a normal phenomenon and nothing has happened in Ukraine?
Let me remind you that in 2014 Ukraine was seized by terrorists by military seizure, the legal president fled from death, and the regions who did not agree with the seizure of the country, the new terrorist "government" having access to the army began to suppress and seize by force. Nobody remembers this?!
Why does everyone pretend like everything was normal there?
According to all international laws, in 2014 the country of Ukraine ceased to exist, the constitution and laws on equality and democracy were violated! Why does everyone pretend that Ukraine is still a country.
After the seizure of the country, the terrorists held their fake elections in the hope of making themselves legitimate, but these are fakes, they still exactly remained terrorists!
Now these terrorists have attacked Russia and all the euros are silent, as if this is normal.
It is not normal.
Stop calling Ukraine a country.
In 2014, there was an armed seizure of power in this "country"! Not democratically with a vote, but an armed seizure with weapons and militants !!! People with weapons broke into the parliament, the president's house, the administrative building, seized everything by force.
Those who seized power with weapons now rule Ukraine!
They are not legal!
@taralown7023
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Getting a citizenship to any country is basically impossible. But this scenario would be even more difficult, I would think and hope
@honoriotanquintic6533
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
And Blackrock owns both now…..
@dickensmccain3129
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Fake news
@disappointeddinosaur4440
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
💚 My prayers 🙏 go out to these 3 women & others like them in Ukraine 🇺🇦. ~~ 11/28/23~~
@ConsueloVillegas-bh1uj
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
i’m surprised ukraine still has a government and a passport system.
@ruiddd956
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
"Ukraine's President Zelenksy has been making some big personal purchases in the form of luxury yachts ahead of his ouster into exile. Investigators discovered Zelensky's proxies have bought two luxury yachts totaling $75 million. Where did they get that money? The purchases were made through the same close associates Zelensky has used before to make proxy purchases of real estate and other luxury goods." From Redacted.
@StormyNatero-yd7sj
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
If They were born in Ukraine they are
Ukrainian…..not Russian. Jfyi.
@StormyNatero-yd7sj
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Why ?????
Thats upto Ukraine 🇺🇦.
@lolawants2008
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Ukraine needs to change the laws. Or have a special route to be approved on a case by case basis. No one who is Ukrainian at heart & for whom returning to Russia would be dangerous should be turned away. Under no circumstances should she have to go to Russia to renounce her citizenship. Russia is never to be trusted.
@galvk
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
One thousand of million = 0,1%
@andersgrassman6583
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
I understand this isn't a straightforward thing. – EXCEPT if a person fights in the Ukranian armed forces, there can't really be any reasons not to give citizenship. I haven't risked my life for Sweden, and just got citizenship for free based on parents and birthplace. If you go out and risk you life, you have a thousnd times more right to a citizenship than I have.
@michaelasamoah2390
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Not fighting for UK passports?my bad.
@user-wu2er4zd1d
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
😂
@varvik4992
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
boris johnson will sure burn in the underworld for contributing to such war between 2 nations
@tonysklai
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Give protection person passport first immediately
before full citizens right passport
@romanroman1453
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Good part of that 170 thousand had years if not decades to renounce Russian passports. Many chose not to do so. Ukraine was full of Russian spies before the war. So some degree of septicism towards Russian passport holders is understandable. I’m confident that Ukrainian state will treat favorably people who proved their allegiance during war time. But as you can imagine granting citizenship is low on priority list of Ukraine. It has to survive first and make sure that Ukrainian passport still exists in few years time.
@romanroman1453
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
I have relatives with Russian passport who lived in Ukraine for 20 years. They never wanted to give up Russian passport for two reasons. First, to keep Russian pension payments and , second, they never respected Ukrainian statehood. They loved Putin and we had a lot of arguments over their allegiance. Dear BBC, don’t try to identify another “victim” group. It’s not helpful.
@just4visit
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
millions of ukrainians fighting for russian passport – tell us about that!
@HolgerJakobs
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
She should be able to surrender her Russian citizenship without travelling to Russia. Why can't this be done at some Russian Embassy or consulate in a third country?
@caintindal1671
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Your all the bloody same if you ask me. more Ukraine can get well the decision is easy.
@elijahfreeman3997
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Code yellow – MIB
@vijaym2823
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
So changing a passport in Ukraine before the war was extremely difficult , sounds like discrimination before the war … Ukraine is a Democracy ??? Humm
@kaycey7361
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Its same as sudeten german problem in Czechoslovakia during 1930s.
@avalon9129
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Both Ukraine and Russia is cold shithole. Better choose life in EU
@MiSt3300
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
This is ridiculous. I hope Ukraine won't become a nationalist state, and recognize that many people who live in Ukraine have links to Russia, and that this doesn't mean that they are Z putin supporters! Ridiculous.
@K_N_S_F
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Ukraine can win the war, but Russia might never become free since all the Russian who are fighting against Putler, are longing for a Ukrainian passport and have no intention of living in Russia, let alone building a normal country.
@user-qe8sm6df5z
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Ukraine Governemnt please tale care your people. You are asking the world to take care of you and yet you don't take care of your own.
@thusomaepa1852
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
The Russians are fighting for a bankrupt,russophobic country but hey every individual is different there are still black people who celebrated apartheid and fought for the Afrikaners all we can do is pray for them
@harddgril546
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Let Ukrainians be themselves, be their own culture..don't steal their land, don't kill their babies..
@nzameni2772
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
BBC YOU ARE REALLY BELITTLING THE INTELLIGENCE OF THOSE WHO JUST IN PASSING SEE YOUR HEADLINES CAUSE NO ONE OF INTELLECT SIT AND WATCH YOU NO MORE.
@borisnikator7060
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
So they betrayed their Fatherland in order to be rejected by Ukraine. What a pity.
@theeraphatsunthornwit6266
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
move to donbas and get russian passport instead?
@qn5947
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Just another Russian spy living in Ukraine. Get rid of her and all Russian citizens back to Moscow.
@kimhannahhhh
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Ukrainian passport system is fckd up..
I work for an airline company. We had Ukrainian refugee family who wanted to buy the tickets for the flight but they didn't have passports (I'm still wondering how they got into our country, I bet illegally).
I was like "I'm really sorry but I can't sell you the tickets if you and your children don't have any documents". However, a mother said they can't even get passports cuz an Ukrainian embassy don't let them get passports since they are from Mariupol (this city is occupied by Russia rn).
I asked the authorities but they rejected me to sell the tickets for them. I don't know what happened to them after that. I hope they're alright 😥
@zmey9000
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
"Thousands of Russians fighting for a Ukrainian passport "
That is really fake!:))
For Russian is "Vracky".
However, you inhabitants of the Wild West love to consume sweet lies in large quantities, because they are sweet. 🙂
Greeting from Russia!:)
@LambofSuffering
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Before war there was 9 mil ukranians in Russia now its 12mil and rising as more and more ukranians chose to move to Russia, but they wont tell you that here. 😅 uncomfortable truth.
@Hacking-NASSA-with-HTML
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Yes. It's true! The whole world wants ukr passport! Even aliens from Mars
@D__Lee
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Given Russia's invasion, I can understand Ukraine's reluctance to accept Russian citizens. The fear of a Russian "fifth column" to undermine Ukraine has always been a clear and present danger to its existence. The Russian "fifth column" will eventually force Georgia back into Putin's new USSR.
@yummm8775
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Putin is definitely evil, but not all Russians are. I hope and pray that this war will end soon and all parties involved will return to peace.
@oritafilms
December 18, 2023 at 11:49 pm
3million Ukrainians migrated to Russia after the war began. Tell us about it please, BBC